1 00:00:05,427 --> 00:00:07,845 Previously on Criminal Minds: Evolution... 2 00:00:07,846 --> 00:00:11,098 I used your birth name and you didn't even notice. 3 00:00:11,099 --> 00:00:16,520 This is where Lee Duval died and where Elias Voit was born. 4 00:00:16,521 --> 00:00:20,567 Do you feel in your heart of hearts that you're a good person? 5 00:00:21,067 --> 00:00:24,154 I feel like I can be. 6 00:00:25,947 --> 00:00:28,574 I wouldn't trouble you were it not of the utmost importance. 7 00:00:28,575 --> 00:00:30,367 What is it you think you have? 8 00:00:30,368 --> 00:00:32,327 Dare I say a manifesto. 9 00:00:32,328 --> 00:00:36,249 "Some may call me a fan, but He must call me God." 10 00:00:37,417 --> 00:00:39,710 - Hello, Brian. - Whoa. Special guest appearance? 11 00:00:39,711 --> 00:00:42,588 Do not say one word about him being here. 12 00:00:42,589 --> 00:00:44,590 Hi, you're live on the air. 13 00:00:44,591 --> 00:00:46,467 With whom do we have the pleasure of speaking? 14 00:00:46,468 --> 00:00:47,719 Call me God. 15 00:00:51,431 --> 00:00:52,931 "Are you trying to profile me?" 16 00:00:52,932 --> 00:00:55,018 I'm not speaking to you. 17 00:00:55,518 --> 00:01:00,397 I'm speaking to Lance Kingston, the man you're holding captive. 18 00:01:00,398 --> 00:01:01,773 Penelope, talk to me. 19 00:01:01,774 --> 00:01:03,233 Okay, I got him. I got him. 20 00:01:03,234 --> 00:01:06,695 He's at the Stash-All Storage Facility in Richmond, Virginia. 21 00:01:06,696 --> 00:01:09,156 It's a garage unit being rented by Lance Kingston. 22 00:01:09,157 --> 00:01:11,575 - Is he there? - Is who here? 23 00:01:11,576 --> 00:01:13,368 - Voit. - No. 24 00:01:15,830 --> 00:01:17,539 Stop! He's gonna kill me. 25 00:01:17,540 --> 00:01:19,541 - Yes, he's here. - No! 26 00:01:19,542 --> 00:01:21,126 Voit is here! Elias Voit is here. 27 00:01:21,127 --> 00:01:22,128 You can talk to him. 28 00:01:22,281 --> 00:01:23,855 _ 29 00:01:23,963 --> 00:01:25,340 What just happened? 30 00:01:26,382 --> 00:01:27,967 You just caused a man's death. 31 00:01:43,775 --> 00:01:46,276 We've got roadblocks up in a five and ten mile radius. 32 00:01:46,277 --> 00:01:48,654 We might have a victim inside, and he might still be alive. 33 00:01:48,655 --> 00:01:50,198 FBI, open up! 34 00:02:03,086 --> 00:02:04,503 Oh, Jesus. 35 00:02:04,504 --> 00:02:06,213 Is that... 36 00:02:06,214 --> 00:02:07,423 It's flesh. 37 00:02:08,049 --> 00:02:09,634 Burnt flesh. 38 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,067 He's been branded. 39 00:02:30,738 --> 00:02:34,116 The residual smoke from the burn would only last five to ten minutes. 40 00:02:34,117 --> 00:02:36,285 Well, then the Fan couldn't have gotten far. 41 00:02:36,286 --> 00:02:37,704 Let's go. 42 00:02:42,166 --> 00:02:44,002 - You find a pulse? - It's there. 43 00:02:45,128 --> 00:02:47,087 It's weak and thready, but it's there. 44 00:03:01,894 --> 00:03:05,188 Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. 45 00:03:05,189 --> 00:03:06,982 Seek what they sought. 46 00:03:06,983 --> 00:03:08,483 Matsuo Bashō. 47 00:03:16,326 --> 00:03:19,828 Lance Kingston is alive. 48 00:03:19,829 --> 00:03:20,830 Oh! 49 00:03:21,539 --> 00:03:22,707 Thank God! 50 00:03:23,625 --> 00:03:24,791 Oh! 51 00:03:24,792 --> 00:03:27,795 Oh... Oh! 52 00:03:28,463 --> 00:03:30,380 Sheila said this. 53 00:03:30,381 --> 00:03:32,883 She said this... right before she left me. 54 00:03:32,884 --> 00:03:35,260 She said, "You're going to get somebody hurt." 55 00:03:35,261 --> 00:03:37,012 And then it came true. She was right. 56 00:03:37,013 --> 00:03:41,308 I don't know how it happened, but she was right. Ah! 57 00:03:41,309 --> 00:03:42,810 Pfft. 58 00:03:50,568 --> 00:03:52,195 I am done. 59 00:03:53,279 --> 00:03:56,740 No more Sicarius Files. No more conspiracies. 60 00:03:56,741 --> 00:03:58,909 I am out for real. 61 00:03:58,910 --> 00:04:01,203 - For real? - Absolutely! 62 00:04:01,204 --> 00:04:02,847 What happened to Lance is gonna weigh 63 00:04:02,857 --> 00:04:04,456 on my heart for the rest of my life. 64 00:04:04,457 --> 00:04:07,668 Oh, I'm sorry to say this, but I'm very happy to hear that. 65 00:04:08,294 --> 00:04:09,734 I'm kinda over-leveraged right now 66 00:04:09,744 --> 00:04:12,047 because of the success of the podcast. 67 00:04:12,048 --> 00:04:15,092 I was okay before the money or the perks, 68 00:04:15,093 --> 00:04:17,928 I mean, I'll... find a way to be fine again. 69 00:04:17,929 --> 00:04:19,012 Yeah. 70 00:04:28,523 --> 00:04:29,524 Wait, 71 00:04:30,817 --> 00:04:32,526 did you throw up in here? 72 00:04:32,527 --> 00:04:35,445 I was literally sick with worry. 73 00:04:35,446 --> 00:04:38,907 Emily, I'm so sorry. 74 00:04:38,908 --> 00:04:40,243 Bill me for a new one, 75 00:04:41,077 --> 00:04:42,578 like a fancy one. 76 00:04:43,538 --> 00:04:44,663 Ugh. 77 00:04:44,664 --> 00:04:48,250 Is Brian Garrity moonlighting as a janitor for the FBI? 78 00:04:48,251 --> 00:04:49,543 No. 79 00:04:49,544 --> 00:04:52,546 He is not moonlighting as anything anymore. 80 00:04:52,547 --> 00:04:54,424 Good, because we just got this. 81 00:04:56,467 --> 00:04:57,677 Mm-hmm. 82 00:05:08,104 --> 00:05:09,312 Look at this. 83 00:05:09,313 --> 00:05:10,605 What's this? 84 00:05:10,606 --> 00:05:13,693 Crime scene report from the storage locker where we found Lance. 85 00:05:14,986 --> 00:05:18,196 Well, it's pristine. Is this post-forensics? 86 00:05:18,197 --> 00:05:19,990 This is the forensics. 87 00:05:19,991 --> 00:05:23,076 No fibers, no hair, no nothing. 88 00:05:23,077 --> 00:05:26,663 And based on the Fan's OCD, I doubt he left any trace. 89 00:05:26,664 --> 00:05:28,957 Which means you probably struck out too, didn't you? 90 00:05:28,958 --> 00:05:30,835 Yeah, I did. 91 00:05:31,461 --> 00:05:35,338 The Fan paid for the storage unit in cash under Lance's name, 92 00:05:35,339 --> 00:05:36,983 and the rental agreement was typed up 93 00:05:36,993 --> 00:05:40,469 on the same typewriter we know so well. 94 00:05:40,470 --> 00:05:44,599 Which he also used when he escalated to this. 95 00:05:45,141 --> 00:05:47,642 There are eight letters in the word pathetic, 96 00:05:47,643 --> 00:05:51,386 so the Fan put eight brands on each of Lance's arms. 97 00:05:51,633 --> 00:05:52,773 Oh. 98 00:05:52,774 --> 00:05:53,858 What? 99 00:05:54,630 --> 00:05:59,093 This is the most detailed MO we've seen from the Fan. 100 00:05:59,629 --> 00:06:05,342 Does he still strike you as a "hasn't killed yet" type unsub? 101 00:06:06,139 --> 00:06:07,767 No, he doesn't. 102 00:06:07,789 --> 00:06:09,290 So why didn't he kill Lance? 103 00:06:22,136 --> 00:06:23,763 There you go. 104 00:06:24,509 --> 00:06:25,885 Doesn't hurt. 105 00:06:26,724 --> 00:06:28,267 Why doesn't it hurt? 106 00:06:29,727 --> 00:06:33,785 Third degree burns destroy the nerves in your skin, 107 00:06:33,795 --> 00:06:35,816 including your pain receptors. 108 00:06:35,817 --> 00:06:39,152 Lance, anything you can remember about what happened from the moment 109 00:06:39,153 --> 00:06:42,406 you were abducted will help us catch the person who did this to you. 110 00:06:45,409 --> 00:06:46,494 I woke up. 111 00:06:47,495 --> 00:06:49,539 I was facing a monitor. 112 00:06:51,082 --> 00:06:52,832 He told me to read off it. 113 00:06:52,833 --> 00:06:54,418 That's all he said. 114 00:06:57,547 --> 00:06:59,090 Is this because of Laura? 115 00:07:00,341 --> 00:07:01,883 What do you mean? 116 00:07:01,884 --> 00:07:05,221 First time you questioned me was because... 117 00:07:06,847 --> 00:07:11,394 because I was being an asshole to Laura after she dumped me. 118 00:07:13,646 --> 00:07:16,064 Is this all revenge for that? 119 00:07:16,065 --> 00:07:18,441 - It's complicated. - Mmm. 120 00:07:18,442 --> 00:07:20,569 We think that he may have targeted you 121 00:07:20,570 --> 00:07:25,283 so that we were distracted investigating you instead of him. 122 00:07:25,908 --> 00:07:27,702 Maybe I was pathetic. 123 00:07:31,122 --> 00:07:32,748 Maybe I still am. 124 00:07:38,004 --> 00:07:40,172 But I don't deserve this. 125 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,174 No, you don't. 126 00:07:43,801 --> 00:07:45,553 So, anything you can remember... 127 00:07:47,471 --> 00:07:49,015 you contact me. 128 00:07:49,599 --> 00:07:52,727 And you can show him how not pathetic you are on the witness stand. 129 00:07:55,146 --> 00:07:56,147 All right? 130 00:07:58,524 --> 00:08:00,066 We got another case. 131 00:08:00,067 --> 00:08:01,943 It doesn't stop. 132 00:08:01,944 --> 00:08:03,945 Of course we do. Where's this one? 133 00:08:03,946 --> 00:08:07,198 Right in our backyard, uh, two women who made their living 134 00:08:07,199 --> 00:08:11,119 showing their wares on the internet as camgirls have been murdered. 135 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,079 Regina Madsen and Lexie Clery. 136 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,789 Both were super popular streamers. 137 00:08:14,790 --> 00:08:16,499 Did they stream on the same site? 138 00:08:16,500 --> 00:08:17,584 No, different platforms. 139 00:08:17,585 --> 00:08:20,337 Camgirls stream from all over the world. 140 00:08:20,338 --> 00:08:23,548 How did the unsub find two in the same geographical area? 141 00:08:23,549 --> 00:08:25,416 Well, if either girl made a video that 142 00:08:25,426 --> 00:08:27,218 showed outfacing windows or mentioned 143 00:08:27,219 --> 00:08:30,221 their location even vaguely, a good tracker would be able to find them. 144 00:08:30,222 --> 00:08:33,558 Uh, like how we found Laura Boyd using that tree in the background. 145 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,477 - Mmm. - Is it possible this is the Fan? 146 00:08:35,478 --> 00:08:37,771 He uses Lance to give us the message he's not pathetic, 147 00:08:37,772 --> 00:08:40,732 and then leaves the dead bodies of two camgirls to prove it? 148 00:08:40,733 --> 00:08:43,443 Well, don't jump to conclusions yet. We don't know if it's connected. 149 00:08:43,444 --> 00:08:45,070 - Garcia, continue. - Correctamundo. 150 00:08:45,071 --> 00:08:50,033 What we do know is that last week Regina went live 151 00:08:50,034 --> 00:08:53,870 to show her dead body, and then last night, same deal with Lexie. 152 00:08:53,871 --> 00:08:56,247 Wait, so now i-is this real money? 153 00:08:56,248 --> 00:08:58,500 Mm-hmm. Green American dollars. 154 00:08:58,501 --> 00:09:00,085 They both asphyxiated on it. 155 00:09:00,086 --> 00:09:01,795 That's a hell of a murder weapon. 156 00:09:01,796 --> 00:09:04,005 Based on the width of the marks on their bodies, 157 00:09:04,006 --> 00:09:05,568 looks like both women were restrained 158 00:09:05,578 --> 00:09:07,801 with leather belts around their torsos. 159 00:09:07,802 --> 00:09:09,970 Easier for the unsub to force-feed them. 160 00:09:09,971 --> 00:09:11,388 Can we source the leather? 161 00:09:11,389 --> 00:09:13,765 We could try if the unsub hadn't taken the belts with him. 162 00:09:13,766 --> 00:09:16,935 Wait a minute, Lance Kingston said he was restrained by leather belts 163 00:09:16,936 --> 00:09:18,812 and that the Fan took them with him as well. 164 00:09:18,813 --> 00:09:21,481 And Lexie was murdered the same night Lance was branded, 165 00:09:21,482 --> 00:09:23,442 less than ten miles away from where we found him. 166 00:09:26,297 --> 00:09:27,904 Now let's jump to conclusions. 167 00:09:27,905 --> 00:09:31,074 There's a shared MO of binding the victims with belts. 168 00:09:31,075 --> 00:09:33,326 You might see that, but definitely not three times in one week. 169 00:09:33,327 --> 00:09:35,998 Displaying the bodies of the camgirls 170 00:09:36,008 --> 00:09:37,956 on a live stream speaks to a desire 171 00:09:37,957 --> 00:09:41,752 to get out a message, but it... it's also a type of exhibitionism. 172 00:09:42,294 --> 00:09:45,905 It is similar to the Fan using Garrity's 173 00:09:45,915 --> 00:09:48,049 live podcast to exhibit his power. 174 00:09:48,050 --> 00:09:49,634 Okay, what's the opposing argument? 175 00:09:49,635 --> 00:09:52,470 Well, if both cases are the Fan, 176 00:09:52,471 --> 00:09:54,639 then his MO is all over the place. 177 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,350 And what, the money stuffed down the throats 178 00:09:57,351 --> 00:10:01,771 could be him making a statement about the camgirls perceiving greed. 179 00:10:01,772 --> 00:10:04,607 That's very different from branding "pathetic." 180 00:10:04,608 --> 00:10:07,986 Exactly. So, we have two murders and one maiming. 181 00:10:07,987 --> 00:10:10,321 Some of the details overlap, some don't. 182 00:10:10,322 --> 00:10:13,199 So, we are going to go where the evidence takes us. 183 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,202 These are two different perpetrators. 184 00:10:16,203 --> 00:10:17,829 Dave, you and I will work on the Fan. 185 00:10:17,830 --> 00:10:19,497 The rest of you investigate the camgirls, 186 00:10:19,498 --> 00:10:21,791 no matter what happens, the clock is ticking. 187 00:10:21,792 --> 00:10:23,168 So, we need to move fast. 188 00:10:23,169 --> 00:10:25,755 - Penelope, can you come with me please? - Yeah. 189 00:10:28,716 --> 00:10:31,634 I know I'm asking the impossible, but I need you on both cases. 190 00:10:31,635 --> 00:10:33,470 - Can you do that? - Absolutely. 191 00:10:33,471 --> 00:10:37,015 That means prioritization, triage, and when necessary, 192 00:10:37,016 --> 00:10:39,017 you call an audible and ask for help. 193 00:10:39,018 --> 00:10:42,020 Uh, hi. I'm Penelope Garcia. This is what I live for. 194 00:10:42,021 --> 00:10:44,064 I mean, I know that the gaggle of you 195 00:10:44,065 --> 00:10:47,108 is the John, Paul and George of crime fighting, but I am the Ringo. 196 00:10:47,109 --> 00:10:48,526 You know, his birthday is July 7th. 197 00:10:48,527 --> 00:10:50,570 That means he's a Cancer and I'm a Cancer rising, 198 00:10:50,571 --> 00:10:54,075 so we're the same person, and I've got this. 199 00:10:55,618 --> 00:10:58,745 All right, I have the footage of Lexie and her boyfriend Rocco. 200 00:10:58,746 --> 00:11:00,163 Let's run down the timeline. 201 00:11:00,164 --> 00:11:02,624 Lexie and Rocco had just finished a performance. 202 00:11:02,625 --> 00:11:05,627 And the show was, "Hell if the devil was a dominatrix." 203 00:11:05,628 --> 00:11:06,711 Yes. 204 00:11:06,712 --> 00:11:11,716 So, uh, looking at this, they did the entire stream from right here. 205 00:11:11,717 --> 00:11:12,802 Bad boy. 206 00:11:28,484 --> 00:11:30,152 Lexie gives Rocco a final shock. 207 00:11:32,947 --> 00:11:35,657 - Ah. Red. Red. - Uh. 208 00:11:35,658 --> 00:11:38,536 Rocco yells out the safe word and they stop the performance. 209 00:11:39,203 --> 00:11:40,578 - Oh. - Here. 210 00:11:42,123 --> 00:11:45,000 - Better? - Oh. I'm good now. 211 00:11:46,502 --> 00:11:47,961 Lexie and Rocco always made it a point 212 00:11:47,962 --> 00:11:49,754 to show their audience their aftercare routine. 213 00:11:49,755 --> 00:11:52,132 Our next show starts in an hour. 214 00:11:52,133 --> 00:11:53,591 Get in the room early and you might 215 00:11:53,601 --> 00:11:56,177 just get a special shout-out from me. 216 00:11:58,681 --> 00:11:59,723 And everything's fine. 217 00:12:00,766 --> 00:12:02,690 Uh, then Rocco leaves the apartment at 218 00:12:02,700 --> 00:12:04,361 ten o'clock to get them both some food. 219 00:12:04,812 --> 00:12:06,855 - See you later. - I'll see you in a bit, beautiful. 220 00:12:08,315 --> 00:12:11,235 GPS on his phone has him back here by 10:42. 221 00:12:12,069 --> 00:12:13,362 All right, let's go. 222 00:12:19,451 --> 00:12:20,535 All right. 223 00:12:20,536 --> 00:12:23,580 This unsub must have been stalking Lexie online and off. 224 00:12:23,581 --> 00:12:25,062 He knew when her next show was, 225 00:12:25,072 --> 00:12:26,916 but he also knew to wait until she was alone. 226 00:12:26,917 --> 00:12:30,503 Right, so the unsub watches Rocco leave, sneaks in here. 227 00:12:30,504 --> 00:12:32,548 Lexie must have thought it was Rocco. 228 00:12:36,177 --> 00:12:37,761 Forget your wallet again? 229 00:12:38,387 --> 00:12:39,846 What? 230 00:12:39,847 --> 00:12:42,266 Get off of me! 231 00:12:49,648 --> 00:12:50,858 He restrains her. 232 00:12:58,282 --> 00:13:00,033 What are you doing? 233 00:13:00,034 --> 00:13:02,410 What do you want? No! 234 00:13:02,411 --> 00:13:04,579 And then he forces the cash down her throat. 235 00:13:04,580 --> 00:13:08,208 That would've required an incredible amount of effort and rage. 236 00:13:10,085 --> 00:13:12,755 She would have been choking on the money, vomiting into it, 237 00:13:13,923 --> 00:13:16,175 but he didn't stop even after she had died. 238 00:13:17,635 --> 00:13:20,261 When he finally finishes, he removes the belt, 239 00:13:20,262 --> 00:13:22,431 turns on the camera, and he leaves. 240 00:13:25,226 --> 00:13:26,810 How much money was it? 241 00:13:28,395 --> 00:13:31,147 It's $1,976. 242 00:13:31,148 --> 00:13:33,117 Is there any specific order, 243 00:13:33,127 --> 00:13:35,443 one that maybe speaks to an unsub with OCD? 244 00:13:35,444 --> 00:13:37,153 Oh, it doesn't get more OCD than this. 245 00:13:37,154 --> 00:13:39,240 Same denominations for each victim. 246 00:13:39,740 --> 00:13:43,619 Nineteen 100s, three 20s, one ten, one five, one one. 247 00:13:44,495 --> 00:13:46,496 - They're all in sequential order. - Mm-hmm. 248 00:13:46,497 --> 00:13:48,874 And Lexie's numbers pick up where Regina's left off. 249 00:13:49,458 --> 00:13:51,709 Which is totally something you guys can track, right? 250 00:13:51,710 --> 00:13:54,879 Well, if this were a money laundering case, yeah, 251 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,091 but it's not a crime to ask a teller about sequential bills. 252 00:13:58,092 --> 00:13:59,175 Mmm. 253 00:13:59,176 --> 00:14:02,720 No, but it does speak to his OCD and his level of means. 254 00:14:02,721 --> 00:14:05,474 I mean, he dropped nearly $4,000 on two women. 255 00:14:06,016 --> 00:14:08,768 Okay, so whether or not this is the Fan, 256 00:14:08,769 --> 00:14:11,938 we need to figure out what 1976 means to him. 257 00:14:11,939 --> 00:14:14,692 The Fan, is that Mr. Pathetic? 258 00:14:15,943 --> 00:14:18,070 Thank you, doc. We'll be in touch. 259 00:14:19,071 --> 00:14:20,531 That's not a no. 260 00:14:21,907 --> 00:14:25,785 Okay, forensics is still working on matching the restraint marks 261 00:14:25,786 --> 00:14:28,621 on Lance's arms with that of our poor camgirls... 262 00:14:28,622 --> 00:14:31,958 cam women, uh, but the width is the same, 1.5 inches. 263 00:14:31,959 --> 00:14:33,292 That's most men's belts. 264 00:14:33,293 --> 00:14:37,255 Ergo, I have pivoted and I'm using my focusing muscles 265 00:14:37,256 --> 00:14:39,924 to search for the typewriting font on Lance's brands. 266 00:14:39,925 --> 00:14:41,426 Comparing typewriter serifs is 267 00:14:41,427 --> 00:14:43,386 how we helped build the case against the Unabomber. 268 00:14:43,387 --> 00:14:47,116 The serif on Lance's brand is bigger than 269 00:14:47,126 --> 00:14:49,100 the letters he wrote to Voit and Garrity. 270 00:14:49,101 --> 00:14:51,519 - Could he have made it himself? - Oh, that's doubtful. 271 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,604 The typewriter bars, the things that make that 272 00:14:53,605 --> 00:14:55,189 click-clacky on the paper, you know... 273 00:14:55,190 --> 00:14:57,400 We know what typewriter bars are. 274 00:14:57,401 --> 00:14:58,943 There's a lack of variation to them, 275 00:14:58,944 --> 00:15:03,573 but these letters are... are in perfect proportion, you know, apart. 276 00:15:03,574 --> 00:15:05,533 Which means he took the typewriter bars out 277 00:15:05,534 --> 00:15:08,037 of the typewriter to make his own "pathetic" brand. 278 00:15:08,746 --> 00:15:11,539 Which when you step that out, it does make sense with the OCD of it all 279 00:15:11,540 --> 00:15:13,435 because the typewriter he's using 280 00:15:13,445 --> 00:15:16,002 to write the letters to Voit and Garrity 281 00:15:16,003 --> 00:15:17,170 that's his old faithful, 282 00:15:17,171 --> 00:15:18,939 but the one he's using to make the 283 00:15:18,949 --> 00:15:20,757 brands, he's just scavenging for parts. 284 00:15:20,758 --> 00:15:23,421 So, all we'd like you to do is track down 285 00:15:23,431 --> 00:15:27,430 the brand of the brand, no pun intended. 286 00:15:27,431 --> 00:15:30,266 Yes, no, I understand. And ding-ding, uh, good news, um... 287 00:15:30,267 --> 00:15:32,268 The brands, the company kind, not the... 288 00:15:32,269 --> 00:15:35,688 You know what I'm saying, they're available regionally. 289 00:15:35,689 --> 00:15:38,082 Typewriting is a dying art, 290 00:15:38,092 --> 00:15:40,902 and large typewriter faces are rare and expensive. 291 00:15:40,903 --> 00:15:44,363 So-So he could have traded with another collector. 292 00:15:44,364 --> 00:15:46,609 That means if we can figure out where he bought it, 293 00:15:46,619 --> 00:15:48,202 we can use that to find him. 294 00:15:48,702 --> 00:15:50,203 Good work, Penelope. 295 00:15:51,330 --> 00:15:53,915 Uh, where are we with the streaming sites? 296 00:15:53,916 --> 00:15:56,918 The... the streaming sites that our two dead camgirls used. 297 00:15:56,919 --> 00:15:58,878 Is there any overlap with subscribers? 298 00:15:58,879 --> 00:16:02,215 Uh, yes. Uh. Yes, I have a request in for that. 299 00:16:02,216 --> 00:16:03,841 You didn't forget, did you? 300 00:16:03,842 --> 00:16:05,343 No, of course not. They're playing hardball. 301 00:16:05,344 --> 00:16:07,678 They don't want to admit that they're hiding a serial killer, 302 00:16:07,679 --> 00:16:10,807 but I play a game I like to call harder ball, 303 00:16:10,808 --> 00:16:14,394 which I'm going to play right now in my office, running in my heels. 304 00:16:19,082 --> 00:16:20,227 Where are we? 305 00:16:20,238 --> 00:16:22,073 We're building a pro and con list. 306 00:16:22,236 --> 00:16:24,821 Pro, the Fan killed the camgirls and maimed Lance. 307 00:16:24,822 --> 00:16:27,698 Con, Regina and Lexie were killed by a separate unsub. 308 00:16:27,699 --> 00:16:29,408 Walk us through both arguments. 309 00:16:29,409 --> 00:16:33,454 On the pro side, the Fan's OCD led to him using sequential bills, 310 00:16:33,455 --> 00:16:37,625 the leather belt restraints, and the live stream spectacle of it all. 311 00:16:37,626 --> 00:16:38,709 And the con? 312 00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:40,628 The agendas are completely different. 313 00:16:40,629 --> 00:16:42,463 The Fan's agenda, it's about ego, right? 314 00:16:42,464 --> 00:16:43,548 It's a message to Voit. 315 00:16:43,549 --> 00:16:45,967 With the camgirls, it's about femicide. 316 00:16:45,968 --> 00:16:47,718 It's a message to their audiences. 317 00:16:47,719 --> 00:16:50,221 It profiles like the live stream murders in Mexico last year. 318 00:16:50,222 --> 00:16:51,806 And there's also this. 319 00:16:51,807 --> 00:16:53,683 There was nothing left on Lance, 320 00:16:53,684 --> 00:16:58,396 but there was trace evidence of leather on both the camgirls' bodies. 321 00:16:58,397 --> 00:17:01,649 The Fan's OCD won't vary with his victims. 322 00:17:01,650 --> 00:17:04,110 Agreed. So, we separate investigations. 323 00:17:04,111 --> 00:17:06,988 Priority will be on the unsub killing camgirls. 324 00:17:06,989 --> 00:17:08,948 Why? They're both urgent. 325 00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:13,244 They are, but... the Fan knows how to practice discipline. 326 00:17:13,245 --> 00:17:14,871 He won't surface again until he's ready. 327 00:17:14,872 --> 00:17:17,874 Whoever is killing these camgirls isn't so patient. 328 00:17:17,875 --> 00:17:19,543 He's going to kill again as soon as he can. 329 00:17:24,365 --> 00:17:26,799 _ 330 00:17:33,474 --> 00:17:35,266 What's another word for tremble? 331 00:17:35,267 --> 00:17:36,475 Dude, are you paying attention? 332 00:17:36,485 --> 00:17:37,935 We're about to start playing. 333 00:17:37,936 --> 00:17:40,480 I know, but I have to finish this right now or I won't get paid. 334 00:17:40,481 --> 00:17:42,312 - This guy's intense. - Hey, Trixie, 335 00:17:42,323 --> 00:17:45,318 can we have one session uninterrupted by your sex work? 336 00:17:45,319 --> 00:17:47,098 Excuse me, but didn't you beg me to play 337 00:17:47,108 --> 00:17:49,155 this game with you because you suck at it? 338 00:17:49,156 --> 00:17:51,991 Whatever, bro. Can it just wait until after this fight? 339 00:17:51,992 --> 00:17:53,951 This is the only time I have to play. 340 00:17:53,952 --> 00:17:55,786 Until you can literally fight your own battles, 341 00:17:55,787 --> 00:17:58,206 I'll do my sex work whenever the fuck I want. 342 00:17:58,207 --> 00:18:00,334 Ugh. Just take a break. 343 00:18:00,918 --> 00:18:02,141 Fine. Let me just... 344 00:18:02,151 --> 00:18:04,587 send a couple more sexy messages, and I'll be ready to fight. 345 00:18:04,588 --> 00:18:06,507 Good. Make it quick. 346 00:18:06,518 --> 00:18:07,622 _ 347 00:18:07,662 --> 00:18:09,675 The word is quiver, by the way. 348 00:18:09,676 --> 00:18:11,719 Quiver. That's perfect. Thank you. 349 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,682 You are making me quiver, thinking of your hand on my throat. 350 00:18:16,683 --> 00:18:18,601 - That's good. That's good. - Ugh. 351 00:18:18,602 --> 00:18:19,727 Are you done yet, Trixie? 352 00:18:19,728 --> 00:18:21,772 Almost there. Chill, dude. 353 00:18:23,482 --> 00:18:25,274 I don't judge you with your job. 354 00:18:25,275 --> 00:18:27,902 I don't sext with other dudes. 355 00:18:27,903 --> 00:18:29,111 This is good. 356 00:18:29,112 --> 00:18:33,742 Yeah, call me princess, and I'll do whatever you say, Zaddy with a Z. 357 00:18:36,078 --> 00:18:37,496 Uh. Excuse me, what do you... 358 00:18:39,289 --> 00:18:40,332 Percy. 359 00:18:41,416 --> 00:18:44,544 - Percy. Hey, are you... - No. 360 00:18:44,545 --> 00:18:46,797 Ah, bro, what... what are you doing? 361 00:18:47,506 --> 00:18:49,015 Get it... Okay, man, let's... 362 00:18:49,026 --> 00:18:51,842 Wait, wait, wait, let's talk about this. Wait, wait. 363 00:18:51,843 --> 00:18:54,178 You want money or something? What do you want? 364 00:18:54,179 --> 00:18:55,805 Why? No, no. 365 00:18:55,806 --> 00:18:58,350 Please... No. 366 00:19:12,531 --> 00:19:14,824 All right. We're good then. Thanks, officer. 367 00:19:14,825 --> 00:19:16,117 You got it. 368 00:19:16,118 --> 00:19:17,244 Hey. 369 00:19:18,537 --> 00:19:21,163 Seems our unsub's type has expanded. 370 00:19:21,164 --> 00:19:24,834 Not quite. Percy Stuben had an online persona called Trixie. 371 00:19:24,835 --> 00:19:27,169 Apparently he was catfishing men. 372 00:19:27,170 --> 00:19:28,614 According to the online pic, 373 00:19:28,624 --> 00:19:30,506 Trixie is very similar to Lexie and Regina. 374 00:19:30,507 --> 00:19:31,591 Similar how? 375 00:19:31,592 --> 00:19:34,510 Feathered hair, bell bottom jeans, the kind of wet t-shirt look 376 00:19:34,511 --> 00:19:36,722 favored by Jacqueline Bisset in The Deep. 377 00:19:38,348 --> 00:19:40,016 That's a 70s movie? 378 00:19:40,017 --> 00:19:41,976 I will kill you, and no one will ever find your body. 379 00:19:41,977 --> 00:19:43,060 My point is, 380 00:19:43,061 --> 00:19:45,896 - we know 1976 is important to this unsub. - Mm-hmm. 381 00:19:45,897 --> 00:19:47,883 Our two camgirls and our one catfisher 382 00:19:47,893 --> 00:19:50,318 all have this throwback 70s vibe. 383 00:19:50,319 --> 00:19:52,028 - But they're all millennials. - Mm-hmm. 384 00:19:52,029 --> 00:19:53,738 In Percy's case, a man. 385 00:19:53,739 --> 00:19:55,865 Yeah. Percy was very, very careful. 386 00:19:55,866 --> 00:19:58,326 He never cammed. He only did text exchanges. 387 00:19:58,327 --> 00:20:00,161 Ah. Makes sense. He didn't want them to see his face. 388 00:20:00,162 --> 00:20:03,414 Most catfishers do everything they can to stay in the shadows. 389 00:20:03,415 --> 00:20:04,624 Right. 390 00:20:04,625 --> 00:20:07,279 So how did a dude posing as a throwback 391 00:20:07,289 --> 00:20:09,629 70s chick get on this unsub's radar? 392 00:20:09,630 --> 00:20:11,714 If I had to guess, 393 00:20:11,715 --> 00:20:14,175 the unsub found out he wasn't actually hot redhead Trixie 394 00:20:14,176 --> 00:20:15,259 and made him pay. 395 00:20:15,260 --> 00:20:18,304 That would mean he was as close to Trixie as the other two camgirls. 396 00:20:18,305 --> 00:20:19,596 I mean, finding out he was being 397 00:20:19,606 --> 00:20:20,806 catfished would likely to have sent him 398 00:20:20,807 --> 00:20:22,308 into an even bigger rage. 399 00:20:22,309 --> 00:20:25,687 I mean, ugh, Percy's blood is on this chair. 400 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,606 Check this out. 401 00:20:28,106 --> 00:20:31,025 The unsub left the belt behind on the body this time, 402 00:20:31,026 --> 00:20:33,073 and it's cowhide, which is pretty much 403 00:20:33,083 --> 00:20:34,655 the most common leather you can find. 404 00:20:36,823 --> 00:20:38,158 He might have been in a hurry. 405 00:20:38,784 --> 00:20:40,242 According to Garcia, 406 00:20:40,243 --> 00:20:43,746 Percy was in the middle of a live gaming chat when he was murdered. 407 00:20:43,747 --> 00:20:46,749 And he was also chatting to a "DOG DAD 47." 408 00:20:46,750 --> 00:20:49,835 You think either of the people he was talking to is our unsub? 409 00:20:49,836 --> 00:20:51,713 It depends on who he was gaming with. 410 00:20:54,883 --> 00:20:57,176 Percy and I weren't on video at the time, 411 00:20:57,177 --> 00:21:00,597 so I didn't see anything, but it sounded rough. 412 00:21:01,348 --> 00:21:03,099 How much did you hear? 413 00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:04,226 All of it. 414 00:21:04,810 --> 00:21:08,563 Then Percy's camera turned on, and I saw... 415 00:21:12,567 --> 00:21:14,026 Kenny, I know this is tough, 416 00:21:14,027 --> 00:21:16,946 but how much did you know about what Percy did for a living? 417 00:21:18,198 --> 00:21:19,407 Too much. 418 00:21:19,408 --> 00:21:21,784 I mean, he was always bragging 419 00:21:21,785 --> 00:21:24,370 about how much he was scamming off these lonely guys. 420 00:21:24,371 --> 00:21:27,582 Did Percy receive any threats from the men that he was catfishing? 421 00:21:28,458 --> 00:21:32,461 - Catfishing? - We went through Percy's logs. 422 00:21:32,462 --> 00:21:36,048 He was pretending to be a different hot woman in each one. 423 00:21:36,049 --> 00:21:37,883 Ah. Nah, you've got it wrong. 424 00:21:37,884 --> 00:21:40,219 - Percy was a chatter. - What's a chatter? 425 00:21:40,220 --> 00:21:42,392 When these girls get too many followers 426 00:21:42,402 --> 00:21:45,182 wanting one-on-ones, it's overwhelming. 427 00:21:45,183 --> 00:21:47,852 So, they outsource the texts to people like Percy. 428 00:21:47,853 --> 00:21:49,687 He worked for a bunch of them. 429 00:21:49,688 --> 00:21:53,149 Okay. So, Percy was there to keep customers feeling special, 430 00:21:53,150 --> 00:21:54,775 connected to the camgirls? 431 00:21:54,776 --> 00:21:55,860 Yeah. 432 00:21:55,861 --> 00:21:58,654 They'd send more money to the girls, and Percy would get a cut. 433 00:21:58,655 --> 00:22:00,948 Did he work on a specific platform? 434 00:22:00,949 --> 00:22:03,785 Yeah, there's a chatter app for all the platforms. 435 00:22:04,286 --> 00:22:07,956 He used to do freelance chatting here and there, but he got headhunted. 436 00:22:10,250 --> 00:22:14,880 I can't believe someone murdered him for it. 437 00:22:16,256 --> 00:22:18,883 Yo, bro, am I, like, free to go? 438 00:22:18,884 --> 00:22:21,886 I need to get, like, celestially high to stop thinking about this. 439 00:22:21,887 --> 00:22:24,680 Yeah. Yeah, thanks. 440 00:22:29,603 --> 00:22:33,063 You want me to hack a chatter app? 441 00:22:33,064 --> 00:22:35,441 - Yeah, is that a problem? - Ew, ew. No. 442 00:22:35,442 --> 00:22:37,193 Why would it be? 443 00:22:37,194 --> 00:22:40,404 Stop grilling me with your eyes. Okay, okay. 444 00:22:40,405 --> 00:22:43,199 I hit some speed bumps with the cam sites. 445 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,869 It turns out when your profit motive is linked to internet security, 446 00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:49,455 i-it can be tricky for a mermaid like me to trip you up. 447 00:22:49,456 --> 00:22:52,416 But that is not an issue, that is an "iss-me." 448 00:22:52,417 --> 00:22:55,304 And yes, of course, I-I will, I will... 449 00:22:55,314 --> 00:22:56,962 I will look into your chatter app. 450 00:22:56,963 --> 00:22:59,507 Just give me just... a second. 451 00:22:59,508 --> 00:23:01,217 Is this coffee? 452 00:23:01,218 --> 00:23:03,552 Did you switch from tea to coffee? 453 00:23:03,553 --> 00:23:06,514 No, I switched from coffee to triple espresso. 454 00:23:06,515 --> 00:23:08,557 Penelope, when is the last time you slept? 455 00:23:08,558 --> 00:23:10,559 When was the last time you slept? 456 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,563 Don't answer that 'cause I know... clearly it was b-before I did, 457 00:23:14,564 --> 00:23:16,273 but you know what they say about sleep? 458 00:23:16,274 --> 00:23:17,691 - That it's, um... - Necessary? 459 00:23:17,692 --> 00:23:20,152 ... overrated, it is overrated for me right now. 460 00:23:20,153 --> 00:23:22,154 And look, I mean this, it's going to sound mean, 461 00:23:22,155 --> 00:23:25,867 but with all love in my heart, get out of my face right now, please. 462 00:23:28,245 --> 00:23:31,956 Okay. Geez. 463 00:23:31,957 --> 00:23:33,833 Well, there... there it is again. 464 00:23:33,834 --> 00:23:34,959 Geography. 465 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,919 It's been bugging me since we got this case. 466 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,129 So, you can be a camgirl, a chatter from 467 00:23:39,139 --> 00:23:41,258 anywhere in the US, the world even. 468 00:23:41,842 --> 00:23:44,510 So how has this unsub found three victims 469 00:23:44,511 --> 00:23:46,972 all within a 150-mile radius of each other? 470 00:23:47,472 --> 00:23:48,932 It can't be an accident. 471 00:23:49,516 --> 00:23:51,433 Being local must be important to him. 472 00:23:51,434 --> 00:23:54,228 - Look! - What? You got something for us? 473 00:23:54,229 --> 00:23:57,314 Yes. I have got something, but not for you. 474 00:23:57,315 --> 00:23:58,399 Not for you. 475 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,525 But I'm not gonna forget the cam sites 476 00:24:00,535 --> 00:24:02,863 and the chatter app, but, uh, but first... 477 00:24:04,114 --> 00:24:05,322 What was I saying? 478 00:24:05,323 --> 00:24:08,784 - You got something, but not for us. - Yes, yes, and I gotta go. 479 00:24:08,785 --> 00:24:11,412 I gotta go do that. Excuse me. Let's go. 480 00:24:11,413 --> 00:24:13,456 Thank you. 481 00:24:14,207 --> 00:24:16,125 Have I got an update for you. 482 00:24:16,126 --> 00:24:18,836 - Do you see that, that right there? - The exclamation point. 483 00:24:18,837 --> 00:24:23,924 That is not supposed to exist because typewriters made before 1960s 484 00:24:23,925 --> 00:24:25,594 didn't have a one key. 485 00:24:26,678 --> 00:24:28,679 - Wait. - No, she's right. 486 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,016 I remember you would use the lowercase L. 487 00:24:32,017 --> 00:24:36,687 So, if there's no one, there's no exclamation point either. 488 00:24:36,688 --> 00:24:41,150 Well, did the Fan get a special plate for just one punctuation mark? 489 00:24:41,151 --> 00:24:44,862 I don't think so. I think he used a period and an apostrophe 490 00:24:44,863 --> 00:24:47,990 and made his own exclamation plate. 491 00:24:47,991 --> 00:24:50,451 Which means he didn't use any modern typewriter. 492 00:24:50,452 --> 00:24:53,913 And older typewriters have very limited, you know, variety of typefaces 493 00:24:53,914 --> 00:24:56,665 which narrows down where he's getting his building materials from. 494 00:24:56,666 --> 00:24:58,051 Not to mention the larger font, 495 00:24:58,061 --> 00:25:00,002 that should make it easier to find as well. 496 00:25:00,003 --> 00:25:03,589 Mm-hmm. And even if he had a large font typewriter, 497 00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:07,301 he'd still need to get another striker because pathetic has two T's. 498 00:25:07,302 --> 00:25:09,595 What's the point of all that? 499 00:25:09,596 --> 00:25:11,264 Just to call us pathetic? 500 00:25:11,890 --> 00:25:13,475 Might not be for us. 501 00:25:15,518 --> 00:25:16,645 Right. 502 00:25:18,146 --> 00:25:21,024 Right. Let's go see him. 503 00:25:24,653 --> 00:25:26,195 - Is he... - Don't worry about him. 504 00:25:26,196 --> 00:25:27,696 What about you... 505 00:25:27,697 --> 00:25:30,324 Is that the same outfit you wore yesterday? 506 00:25:30,325 --> 00:25:32,201 Did you go to bed last night? 507 00:25:32,202 --> 00:25:33,911 Yeah, I som... 508 00:25:33,912 --> 00:25:37,165 I don't... I'm fine. Why do I have to change every day? 509 00:25:38,124 --> 00:25:40,168 Inmates, clear the tier. 510 00:25:41,127 --> 00:25:43,003 Well, he's not Mark David Chapman. 511 00:25:43,004 --> 00:25:44,421 No, he's not. 512 00:25:44,422 --> 00:25:45,673 What is he then? 513 00:25:45,674 --> 00:25:47,342 A copycat of you. 514 00:25:48,134 --> 00:25:49,635 I never branded anyone. 515 00:25:49,636 --> 00:25:52,180 Ever restrained anyone with a leather belt? 516 00:25:54,683 --> 00:25:56,517 There are three kinds of copycats. 517 00:25:56,518 --> 00:25:58,792 One who wants to learn everything 518 00:25:58,802 --> 00:26:01,105 he can about the killer he's emulating. 519 00:26:01,106 --> 00:26:03,816 One who wants everyone to think that his crimes 520 00:26:03,817 --> 00:26:06,568 are being committed by the killer he's emulating. 521 00:26:06,569 --> 00:26:07,778 And then there's the third, 522 00:26:07,779 --> 00:26:10,864 the one who wants to be better than his predecessor. 523 00:26:10,865 --> 00:26:12,367 Like Derek Brown. You remember him? 524 00:26:13,702 --> 00:26:15,744 Yeah. He copied Jack the Ripper, 525 00:26:15,745 --> 00:26:17,746 but they never found the bodies of his two victims, 526 00:26:17,747 --> 00:26:20,083 so he was almost better until they caught him. 527 00:26:22,002 --> 00:26:24,546 Studied that case after you wrote a book about it. 528 00:26:25,547 --> 00:26:26,631 Exactly. 529 00:26:28,842 --> 00:26:31,552 Ah. I see what you're saying. 530 00:26:31,553 --> 00:26:34,305 It's almost like I'm a copycat of you, right, Dave? 531 00:26:38,393 --> 00:26:43,814 We think the Fan is like Brown, or the school shooter model 532 00:26:43,815 --> 00:26:47,818 inspired by the Columbine shooters, only he's trying to surpass you. 533 00:26:47,819 --> 00:26:50,195 So, he's doing everything I did before I started killing, 534 00:26:50,196 --> 00:26:54,325 but now he feels advanced enough to do his own thing, 535 00:26:55,493 --> 00:26:57,536 which means it's probably isn't his first. 536 00:26:57,537 --> 00:26:59,080 That's what we thought. 537 00:26:59,664 --> 00:27:00,874 Who do you think it is? 538 00:27:04,002 --> 00:27:05,128 I don't know. 539 00:27:07,338 --> 00:27:08,465 You know. 540 00:27:10,884 --> 00:27:12,761 - No, I don't know... - You know. 541 00:27:15,388 --> 00:27:17,932 And you've already done something, haven't you? 542 00:27:19,392 --> 00:27:20,393 Dave, 543 00:27:21,644 --> 00:27:23,312 you said yourself, I've grown a conscience. 544 00:27:23,313 --> 00:27:25,482 I wouldn't do anything to jeopardize your trust. 545 00:27:28,610 --> 00:27:29,652 Yeah. 546 00:27:30,945 --> 00:27:33,907 You've studied me and I've studied you. 547 00:27:36,618 --> 00:27:41,539 So, whatever you did, I will figure it out. 548 00:27:57,388 --> 00:27:58,389 No. 549 00:27:59,098 --> 00:28:01,559 Yeah, all the information was in the ad. 550 00:28:03,061 --> 00:28:05,854 No, I'm not gonna drop the price on the podcast notes. 551 00:28:05,855 --> 00:28:08,607 Do you have any idea what's in there? Do you understand? 552 00:28:08,608 --> 00:28:10,235 They should be in the Smithsonian. 553 00:28:11,736 --> 00:28:14,530 The price is non-negotiable. 554 00:28:14,531 --> 00:28:18,158 No, I'm not gonna throw in the podcast sign. 555 00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:20,662 Because someone's on the way right now to buy it. 556 00:28:21,663 --> 00:28:24,498 Okay, you listen to me, you little shit. 557 00:28:24,499 --> 00:28:27,168 Oh. All right, here's what I can do for you. 558 00:28:34,217 --> 00:28:35,468 Hey, Brian. 559 00:28:36,386 --> 00:28:37,469 Sheila. 560 00:28:37,470 --> 00:28:38,971 Can I come in? 561 00:28:38,972 --> 00:28:41,932 Oh... yeah, sure. 562 00:28:41,933 --> 00:28:44,685 I wasn't expecting you. 563 00:28:44,686 --> 00:28:47,104 - You look fantastic. - Aw. 564 00:28:47,105 --> 00:28:49,147 - I didn't mean... - No, no. It's okay. 565 00:28:49,148 --> 00:28:52,734 Listen, after the divorce, I could finally sleep more than four hours. 566 00:28:52,735 --> 00:28:56,531 I got a gym membership and a nutritionist. 567 00:28:57,365 --> 00:28:58,907 - What? - No, it's... 568 00:28:58,908 --> 00:29:00,535 No, it's okay. You can say it. 569 00:29:02,078 --> 00:29:05,956 I guess I'm realizing that you taking care of me 570 00:29:05,957 --> 00:29:08,418 probably got in the way of you taking care of yourself. 571 00:29:10,044 --> 00:29:13,547 It's funny. Bob says the same thing. 572 00:29:13,548 --> 00:29:15,841 Bob from work? 573 00:29:15,842 --> 00:29:18,677 You talking about me a lot with your IRS colleagues? 574 00:29:18,678 --> 00:29:22,015 No, only the ones who make me breakfast. 575 00:29:23,516 --> 00:29:25,476 Ah. Right. 576 00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:28,395 Can I, uh, can I see that? 577 00:29:28,396 --> 00:29:30,522 Oh, this is... nothing. I'm selling it. 578 00:29:30,523 --> 00:29:32,150 I-I know, I'm the one who's buying it. 579 00:29:33,318 --> 00:29:35,819 You listen to The Sicarius Files? 580 00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:39,365 Just the last episode and you know, I was impressed. 581 00:29:41,284 --> 00:29:44,161 And then I realized that you met an actual serial killer 582 00:29:44,162 --> 00:29:46,246 and then I was kind of worried about you. 583 00:29:46,247 --> 00:29:49,918 So, I think I'm just trying to make sure you're okay. 584 00:29:53,004 --> 00:29:54,338 Well, I don't know what to say. 585 00:29:54,339 --> 00:29:56,048 Say you'll give me a discount. 586 00:29:56,049 --> 00:29:58,091 Turns out my niece is a huge fan, 587 00:29:58,092 --> 00:30:01,137 so I'm trying to get some... some cool auntie points. 588 00:30:01,763 --> 00:30:03,221 Come on. 589 00:30:03,222 --> 00:30:05,057 Look. Merino wool. 590 00:30:05,058 --> 00:30:07,018 Oh, thanks. 591 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,730 Thank you. 592 00:30:11,856 --> 00:30:13,358 Wait, wait, wait, wait. 593 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,280 Okay, so after the divorce, you wanted nothing more to do with me. 594 00:30:20,281 --> 00:30:22,408 You went no contact. 595 00:30:23,618 --> 00:30:25,828 How did you even find out about the podcast? 596 00:30:26,412 --> 00:30:28,998 There was someone who called me and said that I should listen. 597 00:30:29,582 --> 00:30:31,458 Who called you? 598 00:30:31,459 --> 00:30:33,795 I don't know, it was Lee something. 599 00:30:34,879 --> 00:30:37,423 - Lee Duval? - Yeah, that's it. Do you know him? 600 00:30:38,508 --> 00:30:40,926 Yes, I do. 601 00:30:40,927 --> 00:30:43,221 Okay. Well, thanks. 602 00:30:50,937 --> 00:30:53,231 Open up. 603 00:30:57,276 --> 00:30:59,695 Brian, thank you for coming to see me. 604 00:30:59,696 --> 00:31:01,155 Where did you get the phone? 605 00:31:02,281 --> 00:31:03,282 What? 606 00:31:03,825 --> 00:31:06,118 Where did you get the phone you used to call my wife? 607 00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:07,328 Oh. Ex-wife. 608 00:31:08,788 --> 00:31:11,164 Seriously, you're gonna narc on me? 609 00:31:11,165 --> 00:31:13,750 - Excuse me, I need to tell you something. - Jesus Christ. Okay. 610 00:31:13,751 --> 00:31:14,949 Okay, look, I had to get you a message 611 00:31:14,959 --> 00:31:16,629 so that you would come and see me. 612 00:31:21,426 --> 00:31:23,761 I just wanted to say thank you for your service. 613 00:31:28,766 --> 00:31:30,934 Well, wives are off-limits. 614 00:31:30,935 --> 00:31:34,396 Wives, children, exes, estranged or otherwise, 615 00:31:34,397 --> 00:31:36,648 don't act like you don't know how this works all of a sudden. 616 00:31:36,649 --> 00:31:38,359 Do you wanna hear my message? 617 00:31:40,028 --> 00:31:41,278 Okay. 618 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,531 I too know what it's like to lose the person whose respect 619 00:31:44,532 --> 00:31:46,450 you want more than anything in the world. 620 00:31:46,451 --> 00:31:48,226 I too know what it's like to want to do 621 00:31:48,236 --> 00:31:50,580 anything to look better in their eyes. 622 00:31:51,122 --> 00:31:53,082 And I know how you can do that. 623 00:31:54,333 --> 00:31:55,625 What are you talking about? 624 00:31:55,626 --> 00:31:57,628 She got hooked on the podcast, didn't she? 625 00:31:58,212 --> 00:32:01,548 I wouldn't say hooked. She was impressed, but anyway, 626 00:32:01,549 --> 00:32:03,759 it doesn't matter because the podcast is over. 627 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,010 Well, what if it's not? 628 00:32:05,011 --> 00:32:07,096 I have another message for the Fan. 629 00:32:07,764 --> 00:32:11,267 On an SD card recorded on the same phone I used to call your ex-wife. 630 00:32:12,435 --> 00:32:13,977 Give it to the BAU. 631 00:32:13,978 --> 00:32:15,937 Yeah, they have a tendency to screw shit up. 632 00:32:15,938 --> 00:32:19,399 You screwed shit up when you insulted the Fan. 633 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,318 You're right, I did. 634 00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:22,944 I tried to control the story. 635 00:32:22,945 --> 00:32:24,696 I tried to control what people thought of me, 636 00:32:24,697 --> 00:32:27,742 but I only made things worse because it's not my story anymore. 637 00:32:28,785 --> 00:32:29,786 It's yours. 638 00:32:32,914 --> 00:32:34,082 Can I tell you what I think? 639 00:32:35,249 --> 00:32:36,250 Please. 640 00:32:38,127 --> 00:32:42,589 I think you see me as an easily manipulatable patsy, 641 00:32:42,590 --> 00:32:46,843 someone you can get to do your bidding with a little ego boost 642 00:32:46,844 --> 00:32:48,762 or if that doesn't work, you throw in a little, 643 00:32:48,763 --> 00:32:52,767 "Oh, Brian, we're not so different, you and I." Am I close? 644 00:32:57,271 --> 00:32:59,023 Well, let me tell you something. 645 00:32:59,732 --> 00:33:02,610 And this is coming from a very real place. 646 00:33:07,156 --> 00:33:10,284 You and I are very different. 647 00:33:12,203 --> 00:33:13,204 Mmm. 648 00:33:14,872 --> 00:33:17,708 Well, do you even know what that difference is? 649 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,672 There is a burgeoning serial killer out there 650 00:33:23,673 --> 00:33:25,674 who I'm pretty sure has already killed once 651 00:33:25,675 --> 00:33:27,843 but is in a bit of a cooling off period. 652 00:33:27,844 --> 00:33:29,220 And why do you think that is? 653 00:33:30,513 --> 00:33:33,850 What has happened to distract him to stop him from escalating? 654 00:33:35,309 --> 00:33:36,560 My show. 655 00:33:36,561 --> 00:33:39,272 And that is the difference between you and me. 656 00:33:40,523 --> 00:33:42,315 I can't stop him from in here. 657 00:33:42,316 --> 00:33:45,027 The BAU can't stop him from anywhere but... 658 00:33:47,321 --> 00:33:48,865 you can. 659 00:33:55,288 --> 00:33:57,248 Thank you for coming to see me. 660 00:34:24,609 --> 00:34:26,526 Wow. What's all this? 661 00:34:26,527 --> 00:34:29,947 Uh, Garcia got all the online chats Percy had with paying customers. 662 00:34:32,283 --> 00:34:34,702 "Until the room stinks." 663 00:34:37,246 --> 00:34:39,998 I don't know why I'm reading it out loud. I'm sorry. 664 00:34:39,999 --> 00:34:42,700 Yes, uh... so way more than 665 00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:45,045 half of these are much older gentlemen. 666 00:34:45,046 --> 00:34:48,548 Yeah, it looks like Percy was real popular with the AARP army. 667 00:34:48,549 --> 00:34:50,884 Okay, so could our unsub be an older man? 668 00:34:50,885 --> 00:34:54,054 That would explain why 1976 means so much to him. 669 00:34:54,055 --> 00:34:56,139 That could be when his lovemap was formed. 670 00:34:56,140 --> 00:34:57,307 Well, that tracks. 671 00:34:57,308 --> 00:34:59,727 All of our victims made videos in a '70s persona. 672 00:35:00,353 --> 00:35:02,646 These chats all mentioned food. 673 00:35:02,647 --> 00:35:04,377 So, I looked through some of Regina's 674 00:35:04,387 --> 00:35:06,066 older videos from the time of the chats. 675 00:35:06,067 --> 00:35:09,736 She did a series of mukbangs with some very regional foods. 676 00:35:09,737 --> 00:35:11,321 What's a mukbang? 677 00:35:11,322 --> 00:35:15,742 Oh. It is when someone eats an insane amount of food on camera. 678 00:35:15,743 --> 00:35:17,827 I cannot tell you why, but they are incredibly popular. 679 00:35:17,828 --> 00:35:20,580 So popular that Lexie did one as well. 680 00:35:20,581 --> 00:35:22,249 Regina had a ton of blue crabs. 681 00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:25,585 Lexie finished hers with a big box of Berger cookies. 682 00:35:25,586 --> 00:35:27,755 Yeah, we're talking incredibly regional. 683 00:35:28,506 --> 00:35:29,989 Without saying where they lived, 684 00:35:29,999 --> 00:35:31,841 these women still ended up exposing themselves. 685 00:35:31,842 --> 00:35:33,385 - Yeah. - Mmm. 686 00:35:33,386 --> 00:35:35,345 Solves your geo-profile problem. 687 00:35:35,346 --> 00:35:38,348 Yeah, it's part of his parasocial delusion. 688 00:35:38,349 --> 00:35:40,892 He wants to believe these women were his peers. 689 00:35:40,893 --> 00:35:43,770 They grew up in the old neighborhood. Remember how good it was. 690 00:35:43,771 --> 00:35:46,274 And then when the relationship soured, he killed them. 691 00:35:47,692 --> 00:35:50,569 We need to comb all of our victims' communications. 692 00:35:50,570 --> 00:35:53,196 I mean, any mention of regional food could be our unsub. 693 00:35:53,197 --> 00:35:56,449 Okay, we are gonna have to come back and help you read through these. 694 00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:59,245 We gotta get to the ME. They finished Percy's autopsy. 695 00:35:59,996 --> 00:36:01,581 - Sorry. - Mmm. 696 00:36:02,623 --> 00:36:03,958 Oh, come on. 697 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,628 He put coins inside Percy? 698 00:36:08,629 --> 00:36:12,340 Not only did he use coins this time, his total was changed. 699 00:36:12,341 --> 00:36:14,593 I took all the cash from Percy's mouth and stomach, 700 00:36:14,594 --> 00:36:17,220 and then I found two dimes deep in his bowels, 701 00:36:17,221 --> 00:36:20,558 bringing the grand total to $395.20. 702 00:36:21,392 --> 00:36:27,689 Wait, that's... that's exactly 20% of Lexie and Regina's amounts. 703 00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:29,816 What? 704 00:36:29,817 --> 00:36:33,236 I got good at mental math from playing darts. 705 00:36:33,237 --> 00:36:35,947 I needed a calculator... but you're right. 706 00:36:35,948 --> 00:36:38,825 I looked for more coins and bills in case I was missing something, 707 00:36:38,826 --> 00:36:40,286 but that's all I found. 708 00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:43,204 I called you in so fast because I was worried there might be 709 00:36:43,205 --> 00:36:45,832 four other victims making up the rest of the money somewhere. 710 00:36:45,833 --> 00:36:47,752 I-I don't think it's that. 711 00:36:48,628 --> 00:36:51,671 We thought 1976 was about a date, 712 00:36:51,672 --> 00:36:54,549 but if he's willing to make a 20% cut 713 00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:57,552 for the guy who took 20% of the camgirls' earnings, 714 00:36:57,553 --> 00:36:59,512 he's saying something else. 715 00:36:59,513 --> 00:37:00,639 Like what? 716 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,931 Not sure. 717 00:37:01,932 --> 00:37:06,270 Sometimes a cigar is a cigar, maybe the money is just about the money. 718 00:37:11,734 --> 00:37:13,234 I spoke with forensics. 719 00:37:13,235 --> 00:37:16,946 The brands on Lance Kingston's body are all the same depth, 720 00:37:16,947 --> 00:37:20,408 meaning all the letters are the same brand of typewriter. 721 00:37:20,409 --> 00:37:22,536 Penelope, you said you had something on that. 722 00:37:26,749 --> 00:37:28,626 Penelope, hey. 723 00:37:29,669 --> 00:37:31,836 - Hey. - Huh? Huh? 724 00:37:31,837 --> 00:37:35,173 Hey. You called typewriter shops about letter strikers? 725 00:37:35,174 --> 00:37:37,176 Yeah, I sure did. I-I called... 726 00:37:37,677 --> 00:37:41,721 I called, uh, almost every typewriter, collector, 727 00:37:41,722 --> 00:37:44,849 supplier, and repair shop in the eastern seaboard 728 00:37:44,850 --> 00:37:50,313 looking for the rare six CPI set of strikers, and I found two. 729 00:37:50,314 --> 00:37:51,773 Great. Where are they? 730 00:37:51,774 --> 00:37:53,983 Oh, one was at a vintage warehouse in New York. 731 00:37:53,984 --> 00:37:55,694 Uh. That one was stolen a few months ago. 732 00:37:55,695 --> 00:38:00,532 And the other one was a gift to a Philadelphia university 733 00:38:00,533 --> 00:38:01,700 and that one was also stolen. 734 00:38:01,701 --> 00:38:03,660 That's where the Fan's letters were postmarked from. 735 00:38:03,661 --> 00:38:05,370 There was something else I wondered... 736 00:38:05,371 --> 00:38:07,122 Oh, I-I... Okay. 737 00:38:07,123 --> 00:38:10,250 So, the lab hit a dead end when it came to the restraints 738 00:38:10,251 --> 00:38:12,585 that the Fan was using on Lance, so I went a different route. 739 00:38:12,586 --> 00:38:14,379 "Root?" I went a different direction, 740 00:38:14,380 --> 00:38:18,092 and the indentations on Lance's wrist matches stingray skin. 741 00:38:19,093 --> 00:38:20,552 Stingray skin? 742 00:38:20,553 --> 00:38:23,555 Yeah, that's what those weird bumps on Lance's arms were. 743 00:38:23,556 --> 00:38:26,433 Stingray leather retains the same bumps as Stingray's skin. 744 00:38:26,434 --> 00:38:28,685 Well, stingray leather should be easier to track. 745 00:38:28,686 --> 00:38:30,520 Oh, yeah, which is why I'm one step ahead of you. 746 00:38:30,521 --> 00:38:31,604 There's this. 747 00:38:31,605 --> 00:38:36,234 Um, so, a few months ago, a-a Pennsylvania college student, 748 00:38:36,235 --> 00:38:38,863 female, she was strangled with a belt. 749 00:38:39,405 --> 00:38:41,449 Her name was Victoria Everman. 750 00:38:50,833 --> 00:38:52,667 And based on the patterns on her neck, 751 00:38:52,668 --> 00:38:55,420 they were able to determine that it was stingray leather. 752 00:38:55,421 --> 00:38:58,047 Cameras on campus weren't able to track the assailant. 753 00:38:58,048 --> 00:38:59,132 Of course not. 754 00:38:59,133 --> 00:39:03,887 His OCD forces him to make sure he knew when he was being watched. 755 00:39:03,888 --> 00:39:05,513 There is one silver lining, though. 756 00:39:05,514 --> 00:39:07,474 For all the Fan's attempts to throw us off, 757 00:39:07,475 --> 00:39:10,352 he has inadvertently revealed something about himself. 758 00:39:10,853 --> 00:39:13,939 Stingray leather, that's his signature. 759 00:39:19,445 --> 00:39:23,031 Russell. Russell. 760 00:39:23,032 --> 00:39:24,991 Russell. Russell. 761 00:39:24,992 --> 00:39:29,205 Favorite movie, any western, probably from the '70s. 762 00:39:31,957 --> 00:39:34,375 Ah, right. Ah... 763 00:39:34,376 --> 00:39:39,632 Misses the old menu at Bronze Pint Tavern in downtown Baltimore. 764 00:39:40,299 --> 00:39:42,134 Obsessed with Charlie's Angels. 765 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,929 Used to play pinball with his son. 766 00:39:45,930 --> 00:39:48,516 Misses when his wife would laugh at his jokes. 767 00:39:49,291 --> 00:39:52,611 _ 768 00:39:52,804 --> 00:39:55,752 So, what does 1976 mean in terms of how 769 00:39:55,762 --> 00:39:57,524 these victims are charging their clients? 770 00:39:57,525 --> 00:39:59,317 I don't think it's about money. 771 00:39:59,318 --> 00:40:02,403 Lexie's boyfriend said they were charging $30 an hour. 772 00:40:02,404 --> 00:40:05,198 For this guy to have blown upwards of 1,900 bucks, 773 00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:08,535 she'd have had to have been on with him for over 60 hours. 774 00:40:08,536 --> 00:40:12,807 Okay, so maybe 1976 is a symbolic amount 775 00:40:12,817 --> 00:40:14,958 of money, not just the total spent, 776 00:40:14,959 --> 00:40:19,755 but that number is part of the message he's sending out. 777 00:40:20,297 --> 00:40:21,590 Like Social Security. 778 00:40:22,466 --> 00:40:23,675 Wow, how did you get there? 779 00:40:23,676 --> 00:40:26,637 My grandma gets one of those checks every month. 780 00:40:27,304 --> 00:40:28,388 Here it is. 781 00:40:28,389 --> 00:40:32,684 The average Social Security benefit is just under $2000. 782 00:40:32,685 --> 00:40:34,227 That would tie it all together. 783 00:40:34,228 --> 00:40:35,722 It would say something not just about 784 00:40:35,732 --> 00:40:37,522 his preferences with these camgirls, 785 00:40:37,523 --> 00:40:40,984 but he would have been spending his entire monthly income on them. 786 00:40:40,985 --> 00:40:42,892 I just searched Percy's logs for any 787 00:40:42,902 --> 00:40:44,362 mention of a Social Security check, 788 00:40:44,363 --> 00:40:47,991 and I found one series of chats with a Russell Kirkland. 789 00:40:47,992 --> 00:40:49,158 Could it be our unsub? 790 00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:51,744 Well, according to his profile, he's in his 70s, 791 00:40:51,745 --> 00:40:53,079 born and raised in Maryland. 792 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,455 He checks all the boxes. 793 00:40:54,456 --> 00:40:58,126 Uncheck those boxes because Russell Kirkland is dead, 794 00:40:58,127 --> 00:40:59,628 committed suicide about a month ago. 795 00:41:00,129 --> 00:41:02,172 If this guy isn't our unsub, who is? 796 00:41:05,092 --> 00:41:06,760 Okay. 797 00:41:10,222 --> 00:41:13,893 Okay. Pinball, laugh, westerns. 798 00:41:15,019 --> 00:41:16,145 Okay. 799 00:41:18,397 --> 00:41:19,523 Right. 800 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,781 Well, hello there, Russell. It's been a long time. 801 00:41:30,431 --> 00:41:32,057 Oh. That's a bummer. 802 00:41:32,068 --> 00:41:33,819 I'm glad you're back. 803 00:41:33,867 --> 00:41:34,951 How are you today? 804 00:41:35,883 --> 00:41:38,016 _ 805 00:41:39,001 --> 00:41:40,543 Russell. 806 00:41:40,544 --> 00:41:42,253 You did say I was your favorite, 807 00:41:42,254 --> 00:41:44,173 ruined you for all the other ladies, is it? 808 00:41:44,617 --> 00:41:47,091 _ 809 00:41:47,343 --> 00:41:49,803 Okay, chill, man, or I'm gonna turn off the stream. 810 00:41:50,387 --> 00:41:54,103 Man, I got a sweet power nap in, 811 00:41:54,113 --> 00:41:56,684 and Tyler and I are here to crush this. 812 00:41:56,685 --> 00:41:58,478 After finding Russell's death certificate, 813 00:41:58,479 --> 00:42:01,105 I thought maybe the real unsub could be killing camgirls 814 00:42:01,106 --> 00:42:02,899 as revenge for Russell's suicide. 815 00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:04,984 Enter Russell's son Jace. 816 00:42:04,985 --> 00:42:06,423 Now, based on bank records, 817 00:42:06,434 --> 00:42:09,113 Jace's had to send his father money for the last year. 818 00:42:09,114 --> 00:42:11,699 Allons-y with alacrity for the 411 on Jace. 819 00:42:11,700 --> 00:42:13,785 Okay, so what are these documents? 820 00:42:13,786 --> 00:42:16,746 Those are emails from Russell to his lawyer, trying to get 821 00:42:16,747 --> 00:42:18,831 his money back from the women who worked as camgirls. 822 00:42:18,832 --> 00:42:21,000 He tried every angle, financial abuse, elder abuse, 823 00:42:21,001 --> 00:42:23,252 scams, fraud, you name it, to no avail. 824 00:42:23,253 --> 00:42:26,214 Regina, Trixie, and Lexie are all mentioned in those emails. 825 00:42:26,215 --> 00:42:29,092 Okay, but looks like his lawyer dismissed all the claims 826 00:42:29,093 --> 00:42:31,219 because the transactions were all above board. 827 00:42:31,220 --> 00:42:32,653 Yeah, that's what happens when you hit 828 00:42:32,663 --> 00:42:33,930 "agree to the terms and conditions" 829 00:42:33,931 --> 00:42:35,723 without reading the terms and conditions, people. 830 00:42:35,724 --> 00:42:38,434 So, his son took the law into his own hands 831 00:42:38,435 --> 00:42:40,979 where he feels the system failed him? Where is Jace now? 832 00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:43,399 I sent you his work and home address. 833 00:42:43,983 --> 00:42:46,651 Did Kirkland mention any of the other women in his emails? 834 00:42:46,652 --> 00:42:49,028 No, unfortunately, Jace got to them all. 835 00:42:49,029 --> 00:42:51,698 Except for one, Cora Sault. 836 00:42:51,699 --> 00:42:53,534 All right, we need to divide and conquer. 837 00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:57,036 All right, uh, you take Jace's work. I'll take his home. 838 00:42:57,037 --> 00:42:59,039 - Yeah. - We'll take Cora. Let's hit it. 839 00:43:04,531 --> 00:43:06,577 _ 840 00:43:11,785 --> 00:43:15,203 _ 841 00:43:17,081 --> 00:43:19,267 _ 842 00:43:19,744 --> 00:43:21,704 Okay, what the fuck are you talking about? 843 00:43:22,305 --> 00:43:23,632 _ 844 00:43:24,231 --> 00:43:25,348 Okay. 845 00:43:28,050 --> 00:43:29,301 Jesus. 846 00:43:31,363 --> 00:43:34,033 Whoa! Whoa! Hey! 847 00:43:40,516 --> 00:43:42,727 It's time to put on a show. 848 00:43:56,740 --> 00:43:58,909 What... what the fuck? 849 00:43:59,850 --> 00:44:01,309 What the fuck? 850 00:44:01,310 --> 00:44:02,894 What's going on? 851 00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:04,563 What is going on? 852 00:44:05,012 --> 00:44:06,346 You know who I am? 853 00:44:08,882 --> 00:44:10,759 You're Russell's son, aren't you? 854 00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:14,558 My dad told you about me? 855 00:44:15,166 --> 00:44:16,208 Yeah. 856 00:44:17,215 --> 00:44:19,592 Yeah, he was very proud of you. 857 00:44:19,603 --> 00:44:21,920 You charged him $70 an hour so he could 858 00:44:21,930 --> 00:44:23,689 tell you how proud he was of me? 859 00:44:23,690 --> 00:44:25,733 - Bullshit! - No, it's not. It's not. 860 00:44:25,893 --> 00:44:27,653 Do you wanna know why I talked to your father? 861 00:44:27,664 --> 00:44:29,373 I know why! 862 00:44:29,384 --> 00:44:32,511 Mom died, so you pretended to like a grieving man. 863 00:44:36,944 --> 00:44:38,245 No, that's not true. 864 00:44:38,246 --> 00:44:40,414 I-I talked to him because you didn't. 865 00:44:40,415 --> 00:44:42,124 He just wanted company. 866 00:44:42,324 --> 00:44:44,535 I-I talked to him because you were too busy. 867 00:44:51,676 --> 00:44:54,471 Oh, my God. Please, no, no, no, no. 868 00:44:55,263 --> 00:44:57,640 FBI! No. Drop the knife, Jace. 869 00:44:57,641 --> 00:45:00,017 No, no, they all need to pay for what they did to my father. 870 00:45:00,018 --> 00:45:01,227 - Jace! - Stay back! 871 00:45:01,344 --> 00:45:02,595 Don't do this, Jace. 872 00:45:03,396 --> 00:45:05,128 I know you think something precious was 873 00:45:05,138 --> 00:45:07,233 taken from you, and you blame these women, 874 00:45:07,234 --> 00:45:09,985 but it was your father who chose to give them all his money. 875 00:45:09,986 --> 00:45:14,281 No, no. He needed that money and these whores manipulated him. 876 00:45:14,282 --> 00:45:16,826 - They... they made him... - Pathetic? 877 00:45:19,207 --> 00:45:23,628 Your father wasn't pathetic, Jace, and neither are you. 878 00:45:27,629 --> 00:45:28,842 Listen to me, Jace. 879 00:45:29,547 --> 00:45:33,343 If you don't drop that knife, my partner's gonna have to shoot you. 880 00:45:34,761 --> 00:45:36,178 And you know what they're gonna say about you 881 00:45:36,179 --> 00:45:37,806 when they wheel you out of here in a body bag? 882 00:45:39,224 --> 00:45:40,392 That you were pathetic. 883 00:45:42,185 --> 00:45:44,061 No, they won't. 884 00:45:44,062 --> 00:45:46,355 Yes, they will. 885 00:45:46,356 --> 00:45:48,108 Isn't that what you thought about your father 886 00:45:48,775 --> 00:45:50,902 when you found out how much he spent on camgirls? 887 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,324 You have one chance to change how your story is told, Jace. 888 00:45:57,701 --> 00:45:59,536 And it starts with dropping that knife. 889 00:46:12,757 --> 00:46:13,758 Hands behind your back. 890 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:18,638 - Okay. - All right, you're all right? 891 00:46:19,347 --> 00:46:21,349 - Yeah. Okay. - Okay. 892 00:46:23,226 --> 00:46:24,686 - I got you. - Thank you. 893 00:46:26,855 --> 00:46:29,315 Jace Russell, you have the right to remain silent. 894 00:46:29,316 --> 00:46:32,736 Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law. 895 00:46:35,989 --> 00:46:37,197 That was a risky move. 896 00:46:37,198 --> 00:46:38,782 How'd you know it would work? 897 00:46:38,783 --> 00:46:40,910 I didn't, honestly. 898 00:46:41,828 --> 00:46:43,163 I just had a feeling. 899 00:46:44,289 --> 00:46:45,622 I mean, the Fan is not Jace, 900 00:46:45,623 --> 00:46:47,334 and Jace is not the Fan, but... 901 00:46:48,752 --> 00:46:50,420 they fit the same profile. 902 00:46:57,594 --> 00:47:00,304 - Emily. - Brian, what are you doing back here? 903 00:47:00,305 --> 00:47:01,513 Gather the team. 904 00:47:01,514 --> 00:47:03,182 There's something you're gonna wanna see. 905 00:47:03,183 --> 00:47:06,477 You don't get to... Ugh. 906 00:47:06,478 --> 00:47:08,979 We really should be doing this in the roundtable room. 907 00:47:08,980 --> 00:47:12,733 That is for this team, not your random visits to Quantico. 908 00:47:12,734 --> 00:47:16,403 - What's going on? - I went to see Voit today. 909 00:47:16,404 --> 00:47:19,531 You did what? What happened to swearing off Sicarius? 910 00:47:19,532 --> 00:47:22,409 I did, but then he got my ex-wife involved. 911 00:47:22,410 --> 00:47:24,162 So, I went down there to... 912 00:47:24,996 --> 00:47:26,956 I don't know what I was gonna do. But... 913 00:47:27,150 --> 00:47:29,626 while I was there, he gave me this. 914 00:47:30,377 --> 00:47:32,628 It's a recording of himself for the Fan. 915 00:47:32,629 --> 00:47:34,797 He wants me to play it on my next podcast. 916 00:47:34,798 --> 00:47:35,924 But you quit the podcast. 917 00:47:38,134 --> 00:47:41,011 - Brian, you quit the podcast, right? - Yeah. 918 00:47:41,012 --> 00:47:45,891 Yes, yes. But I realized I could manipulate Voit 919 00:47:45,892 --> 00:47:48,343 if he thinks I'm manipulatable, 920 00:47:48,353 --> 00:47:50,604 which would give this team an advantage. 921 00:47:50,605 --> 00:47:52,148 Let me get this straight. 922 00:47:52,774 --> 00:47:54,859 You played Voit? 923 00:47:55,568 --> 00:47:56,778 I did. 924 00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:01,408 This is Elias Voit. 925 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,952 And I have a message for my Fan. 926 00:48:05,787 --> 00:48:07,038 You're changing. 927 00:48:07,789 --> 00:48:09,331 You're evolving. 928 00:48:09,332 --> 00:48:10,808 You wanna know more about yourself, 929 00:48:10,818 --> 00:48:12,292 and that's why you're reaching out to me. 930 00:48:12,293 --> 00:48:13,837 Well, I'm evolving too. 931 00:48:14,462 --> 00:48:19,259 And I've learned that you don't have to give in to your urges. 932 00:48:19,926 --> 00:48:21,302 I've been where you are. 933 00:48:22,303 --> 00:48:24,847 Talk to me. I can help you keep the monsters at bay. 934 00:48:24,848 --> 00:48:27,141 I'm... 935 00:48:27,142 --> 00:48:29,413 I'm trying... 936 00:48:29,423 --> 00:48:31,562 to make right with some of the people I've hurt. 937 00:48:31,563 --> 00:48:37,277 And I think by stopping you from becoming me, is how I can do that. 938 00:48:41,573 --> 00:48:44,575 Here is the Voit that we know and love. 939 00:48:44,576 --> 00:48:47,536 This asshole thinks he can do our jobs better than we can. 940 00:48:47,537 --> 00:48:49,246 He's trying to get the Fan to come to him. 941 00:48:49,247 --> 00:48:51,707 Well, yes, but that raises the larger question. 942 00:48:51,708 --> 00:48:53,709 I mean, it was the whole basis of my show. 943 00:48:53,710 --> 00:48:56,420 Did Elias Voit actually develop empathy? 944 00:48:56,421 --> 00:48:58,297 - Or was it all a sham? - Exactly. 945 00:48:58,298 --> 00:49:01,968 And if it is a sham, how does it affect the team member who helped him? 946 00:49:04,179 --> 00:49:07,973 The character testimony at Voit's sentencing was an FBI agent. 947 00:49:07,974 --> 00:49:09,433 What are you talking about? 948 00:49:09,434 --> 00:49:13,061 There was a closed-door testimony from an FBI agent supporting 949 00:49:13,062 --> 00:49:17,274 the theory that Voit had reformed because of his brain trauma. 950 00:49:17,275 --> 00:49:18,358 Who was it? 951 00:49:18,359 --> 00:49:21,028 Well, the ID was blacked out, but it led to Voit getting 952 00:49:21,029 --> 00:49:23,406 life in prison instead of a needle in his arm. 953 00:49:25,158 --> 00:49:27,701 Is this news to you all? 954 00:49:27,702 --> 00:49:30,078 Brian, give us a moment. 955 00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:32,207 We need to discuss this privately. 956 00:49:32,749 --> 00:49:34,250 My office, please. 957 00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:40,924 Okay. 958 00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:43,510 Who was it? 959 00:49:45,136 --> 00:49:46,345 Brain trauma? 960 00:49:46,346 --> 00:49:48,515 No, no. Absolutely not. 961 00:49:49,307 --> 00:49:53,685 Yes, I am a forensic psychologist, but I would never testify to that. 962 00:49:53,686 --> 00:49:56,563 Someone not on the team, maybe someone who... 963 00:49:56,564 --> 00:49:57,774 It was me. 964 00:50:08,701 --> 00:50:09,953 I'm sorry. 965 00:50:10,954 --> 00:50:12,997 I was terrified to say anything. 966 00:50:14,165 --> 00:50:15,707 That's why it was closed-door. 967 00:50:15,708 --> 00:50:18,043 That's why I've been so restless. 968 00:50:18,044 --> 00:50:19,461 I knew it was gonna come out. 969 00:50:19,462 --> 00:50:22,549 And... I-I knew how you'd feel about it. 970 00:50:24,425 --> 00:50:27,220 I wanted to tell you at the right... 971 00:50:28,179 --> 00:50:31,182 But I'm too tired to keep it a secret anymore. 972 00:50:35,478 --> 00:50:37,020 It was me. 973 00:51:05,055 --> 00:51:10,055 - Synced and corrected by naFraC - - www.addic7ed.com -